Showing posts with label financial crisis. Show all posts
Showing posts with label financial crisis. Show all posts

Monday, February 20, 2023

Financial Crisis of 2008 - did we learn from this event?

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This post was banker for a while and is a student of investment banking, especially how the same helps in nation building.  The more important thing is have we learned from this.?  It has been a decade and a half since the crisis and it seems we are facing another one, albeit from a different cause (covid 19)

For 2008 many experts believed that other causes were the 
1.   bonus system that rewarded more sales irrespective of the risks
2   the lack of supervision and control in a deregulated environment (the head of the Treasury was former head of another IB - Goldman Sach

Central to the crisis of September 2008 was the subprime mortgages

1.   Bankers from all over thought that the Treasuries were too low and therefore went into mortgage backed securities.  They gave higher yield than Treasuries   The Mortgage Backed Security were nothing more than pool of mortgages packaged and sold as securities. and were sold from bank to bank.  No one seemed to shoulder the responsibility or risk for the securities, which was present if the loan was underwritten by the bank alone and held into.

At that time real estate was booming in USA, and everybody across the world wanted a piece of that boom at least for MBS.  If the borrower defaults, the house could still be sold at a profit.

2.  There were prime and subprime mortgages   The prime were good mortgages that passed the standards of poor credit  (This post experienced this with instruction of going by formula lending, ie 
Amount of monthly loan eligibility x 36  =  loanable amount.) The credit worthiness and scoring went down to the gutter

3.  Subprime mortgages were below par as per credit standards.  These were housing to loans to people
who can ill afford to live within their means much less pay the normal amortization.   The mortgage companies engaged in predatory lending ie that loans were offered with little amortization in the beginning to lure them into borrowing;   But a year later the payments would balloon.  The borrowers cannot afford and then default

The house would be foreclosed and cant be resold  No one wants to buy the foreclosed house (or if the
neighborhood did not look prime)

4  These result in more defaults and the MBS became worthless or in the term of the IB toxic

5.  First to notice this was BNP (Paribas) in Paris  And soon the toxicity spread across Europe and the world.  Eventually ending up with Lehman brothers who had large exposure.   

We also note that some IB kept on selling securities back in forth to generate more turn over, (sales) and commission for the brokers traders    At some point Lehman sold to Cayman banks (on a repo)  MBS
worth almost $100 billion.   Note this was not a borrowing but a sales (the repo tells you it is a borrowing).  So no civil or criminal cases can be filed

The head of investigating team that held the hearings say that some products can be toxic over time   And that is fine but not with sub prime mortgage which was toxic from the very start  And no one, no one seems to bear responsibility to the quality of the toxic product:   not the underwriter, or the packager, not the rating agency, not the auditor (if any)   No one    No one seems to care 

May be we  asked for it   

The debacle caused loss of jobs for nearly 30,000,000 Americans, not to mention loss of money, loss of confidence in banking system and very harsh lesson for top execs of Lehman and other banks worldwide.  Did we learn our lessons?






US govt intervention in financial crisis of 2008

Every generation needs a revolution - an entrepreneurial revolution

This post went through several videos on the financial crisis of 2008

Several questions were raised?

1  Should the US govt bailed out Lehman brothers.?
    The prevailing thought was no   It is a private enterprise  Corporate greed
     (the  top dog said to have earned $200 to $500 million on their record year)
    and that the govt is not empowered to assist private enterprise.   

    Well the bail out or even the guarantees could have been very small say $5 to $10B.  Thereafter the         govt poured in at least $500 B in QE funds which did not lift the economy soon enough  And the             TARP ( Troubled Assets Relief Program about $500 billion) Not to mention the recession and huge          losses for many people

      Could the FED have stopped the practice of sub prime mortgages.   Alan Greenspan said that
      it was part of the 30% where he made an ooops.  

     The US Govt was not in the mood for more bail outs of the  too big to fail.  It just rescued Bear
      Stearns, Ginna Mae and Fanna Mae (the govt secondary mortgage markets

2.   Was the private company Lehman entirely responsible for this failure

      According to a Chief Economist Brian Wesbury lecture at TED talk, the indigestion at Lehman was        the result    interest rates that led to more mortgages and subprime mortgages  It is also the fault of          the firm  management, not managing well the down side of subprime mortgages and investing                heavily on such risky product   Clearly Lehman was not in this alone